openness

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Определение openness в Английский Язык Турецкий язык словарь

{i} açıklık

aleniyet

{i} açık sözlülük

Bana pencereyi açık bırakmamı söyledi. - He told me to leave the window open.

Pencereler açık uyuma. - Don't sleep with the windows open.

open

açmak

Onu açmak için bir allen anahtara ihtiyacın olacak. - You'll need an Allen key to open it.

Tom Mary'yi ona gönderilen bir zarfı açmak için buğulama yapmaya çalışırken yakaladı. - Tom caught Mary trying to steam open an envelope addressed to him.

open

açılmak

Amerika Birleşik Devletlerinde sivil haklar için mücadele 1954 yılında başladı, hükümetin herkese okul açılmak zorunda olduğunu söylediğinde. - The fight for civil rights in the United States started in 1954, when the government said school had to be open to everyone.

open

açık (kapı)

openness, aperture

açıklık, diyafram

openness, lack of restraint

kısıtlanmış açıklık eksikliği

openness, sincerity, frankness

açıklık, samimiyet, açık sözlülük

openness; frankness

açıklık, samimiyet

openness; frankness; candor

açıklık, samimiyet, açık kalplilik

{s} çözülmemiş (sorun)

open

(Ticaret) açılış değeri

(Bilgisayar) pencere boyutunu değiştirir

O zarfı açmak için kesti. - He cut the envelope open.

Tom zarfı açmak için yırttı. - Tom tore open the envelope.

(Bilgisayar) açılış

Ne olursa olsun, açılış töreni dokuzda başlayacak. - Rain or shine, the opening ceremony is to begin at nine.

Açılış töreni dün gerçekleşti. - The opening ceremony took place yesterday.

Ben açık ve dürüsttüm. - I was open and honest.

Sana karşı tamamen dürüstüm. - I have been completely open with you.

{f} aç

Pencereler açık uyuma. - Don't sleep with the windows open.

Bu kapıyı açma, lütfen. - Don't open this door, please.

open

açık hava

Günü açık havada geçiririz. - We spent the day in the open air.

Bizim açık havada bir partimiz vardı. - We had a party in the open.

open

herkese açık

Park herkese açıktır. - The park is open to everybody.

O yer herkese açıktır. - That place is open to everybody.

{f} başlatmak

(Tıp) Açık (elektrik devresi)

open

acuk

culture of openness

açılık kültürü

open

{s} geniş

Tom onun ağzını geniş açtı. - Tom opened his mouth wide.

Tom'un gözleri geniş açıldı. - Tom's eyes opened wide.

{s} ağaçsız. i

{s} karara bağlanmamış

{s} içten

ses or- ganları nispeten açık olarak söylene

{f} açtırmak

{s} kısık olmayan (ses)

{f} başlamak

{s} serbest

Sihirli lamba kırılıp açıldı ve cin serbest kaldı. - The magic lamp broke open and the genie was released.

Kafesi açtı ve kuşları serbest bıraktı. - He opened the cage and set the birds free.

open

(Tıp) Açık (hava)

open

{s} ferah

open

{s} aşikâr, meydanda olan

open

içine girilir

open

(Askeri) AÇ", "YAY: Gözcünün atışların merminin azami etki genişliğinde yayılmasını istediğini belirtmek için yaptığı atış isteğinde kullanılan bir terim

Английский Язык - Английский Язык

Определение openness в Английский Язык Английский Язык словарь

The degree to which a person, group, organization, institution, or society exhibits this liberal attitude or opinion

Accommodating attitude or opinion, as in receptivity to new ideas, behaviors, cultures, peoples, environments, experiences, etc., different from the familiar, conventional, traditional, or one's own

the degree to which a system operates with distinct boundaries across which exchange occurs capable of inducing change in the system while maintaining the boundaries themselves

degree of accessibility to view, use, and modify computer code in a shared environment with legal rights generally held in common and preventing proprietary restrictions on the right of others to continue viewing, using, modifying and sharing that code

{n} freedom from disguise, clearness

characterized by an attitude of ready accessibility (especially about one's actions or purposes); not secretive without obstructions to passage or view; "the openness of the prairies

willingness or readiness to receive (especially impressions or ideas); "he was testing the government's receptiveness to reform"; "this receptiveness is the key feature is oestral behavior, enabling natural mating to occur"; "their receptivity to the proposal"

{i} quality of being open, frankness, accessibility

In language, the phenomenon that allows native speakers to talk about matters that they have not discussed before and to understand talk they have never heard before In relationships, the willingness of an individual to receive and consider ideas from another

liberal attitude or opinion, as in receptivity to new ideas, behaviors, cultures, peoples, environments, experiences, etc., different from the familiar, conventional, traditional, or ones own

the quality or condition of being open, or unenclosed In international economic terms, openness is portrayed as the alternative to protectionism Being open to the world economy means having no barriers to international trade, finance and investment The term includes a set of international flows, some of which, notably finance and capital flows, are controversial, and omits others, notably migration

absence of reserve and unhampered by conventional reticence; directness exemplifying sincerity

characterized by an attitude of ready accessibility (especially about one's actions or purposes); not secretive

without obstructions to passage or view; "the openness of the prairies"

Accessibility; availability of information; receptiveness to discussion and participation; candidness; lack of secrecy

The quality or state of being open

One of the three foundations of public service There should be sufficient transparency in NHS activities to promote confidence between the NHS authority or trust and its staff, patients and the public Accountability and probity are the other two foundations of public service

open

Having a free variable

open

Open or unobstructed space; an exposed location

Wary of hunters, the fleeing deer kept well out of the open, dodging instead from thicket to thicket.

open

Candid, ingenuous, not subtle in character:

The man is an open book.

open

In current use; mapped to part of memory

I couldn't save my changes because another user had the same file open.

open

Which is not closed; accessible; unimpeded; as, an open gate

It was as if his body had gone to sleep standing up and with his eyes open.

open

Is part of a predefined collection of subsets of X, that defines a topological space on X

open

A sports event in which anybody can contest; as, the Australian Open

open

To begin a side's innings as one of the first two batsmen

open

Actively conducting or prepared to conduct business

Banks are not open on bank holidays.

open

To reveal one's hand

Jeff opens his hand revealing a straight flush.

open

To load into memory for viewing or editing

open

Public knowledge or scrutiny; full view

We have got to bring this company's corrupt business practices into the open.

open

{v} to set open, unlock, divide, explain, begin

open

{a} unshut, unclosed, uncovered, plain, clear

Open

ope

The instant he opened the door, he smelt something burning. - As soon as he opened the door, he smelled something burning.

Open the door, please. - Please open the door.

open

{f} move to an open position; be moved to an open position; begin; clear from obstructions; lead out or into; spread out; unseal; expose; make vulnerable; become receptive; remove restrictions; make accessible; make available

open

You can use open to describe something that anyone is allowed to take part in or accept. A recent open meeting of College members revealed widespread dissatisfaction A portfolio approach would keep entry into the managerial profession open and flexible. an open invitation

open

If you open an account with a bank or a commercial organization, you begin to use their services. He tried to open an account at the branch of his bank nearest to his workplace

open

If a place opens into another, larger place, you can move from one directly into the other. The corridor opened into a low smoky room. Open out means the same as open. narrow streets opening out into charming squares

open

Said of "standards" that are published and available to everyone (sometimes for a fee) Ideally said of publicly controlled standards but much abused by marketing departments who refer to proprietary protocols as "open" if at least a small part of the specification is available to public view The term "Open Systems" generally refers to Unix and the communications protocols surrounding it

open

To bet before any other player has in a particular betting round in a game of poker

open

a wire that is broken midway

open

To begin conducting business

open

used of string or hole or pipe of instruments

open

with no protection or shield; "the exposed northeast frontier"; "open to the weather"; "an open wound"

open

having no protecting cover or enclosure; "an open boat"; "an open fire"; "open sports cars"

open

To open is to rotate part of one's body in such a way pointed on a line away from the center of the lane

open

with open arms: see arm to open the door: see door to keep your eyes open: see eye with your eyes open: see eye to open your eyes: see eye to open fire: see fire to open your heart: see heart the heavens open: see heaven an open mind: see mind to open your mind: see mind to keep your options open: see option. an important national golf competition, especially the British Open Championship or the US Open Championship. open end trust open cluster Open Door policy open market operation open hearth process open heart surgery

open

An open structure or object is not covered or enclosed. Don't leave a child alone in a room with an open fire. open sandwiches

open

When a public building, factory, or company opens or when someone opens it, it starts operating for the first time. The original station opened in 1754 The complex opens to the public tomorrow They are planning to open a factory in Eastern Europe close, shut Open is also an adjective. any operating subsidy required to keep the pits open. + opening openings open·ing He was there, though, for the official opening

open

ready for business; "the stores are open"

open

without undue constriction as from e

open

affording free passage or view; "a clear view"; "a clear path to victory"

open

To spread; to expand; as, to open the hand

open

not sealed or having been unsealed; "the letter was already open"; "the opened package lay on the table"

open

sincere and free of reserve in expression; "Please be open with me"

open

An open area is a large area that does not have many buildings or trees in it. Officers will also continue their search of nearby open ground

open

affording unobstructed entrance and exit; not shut or closed; "an open door"; "they left the door open"

open

If you say that a fact or question is open to debate, interpretation, or discussion, you mean that people are uncertain whether it is true, what it means, or what the answer is. It is an open question how long that commitment can last

open

Free of access; not shut up; not closed; affording unobstructed ingress or egress; not impeding or preventing passage; not locked up or covered over; applied to passageways; as, an open door, window, road, etc

open

{i} spacious place; wilderness, outdoors; open air, fresh air; competition in which both professionals and amateurs may compete; state of being unconcealed

open

To make accessible to customers or clients

open

Free; disengaged; unappropriated; as, to keep a day open for any purpose; to be open for an engagement

open

Not drawn together, closed, or contracted; extended; expanded; as, an open hand; open arms; an open flower; an open prospect

open

(of textures) full of small openings or gaps; "an open texture"; "a loose weave"

open

Term used for a string that is allowed to vibrate throughout its full length, as opposed to being 'stopped' by pressing a finger on it

open

To start (a campaign)

open

Which is not closed; accessible; as, an open gate

open

To bring up (a topic)

open

also, to means of communication or approach by water or land; as, an open harbor or roadstead

open

hence, not frosty or inclement; mild; used of the weather or the climate; as, an open season; an open winter

open

not secret; "open plans"; "an open ballot"

open

open and observable; not secret or hidden; "an overt lie"; "overt hostility"; "overt intelligence gathering"

open

tenseness or inhibition; "the clarity and resonance of an open tone"; "her natural and open response"

open

make available; "This opens up new possibilities"

open

{s} not closed; not sealed; exposed, vulnerable; honest, frank; receptive; unrestricted; spread out; accessible; available

open

afford access to; "the door opens to the patio"; "The French doors give onto a terrace"

open

If something such as a meeting or series of talks opens, or if someone opens it, it begins. an emergency session of the Russian Parliament due to open later this morning They are now ready to open negotiations. + opening open·ing a communique issued at the opening of the talks

open

Public; as, an open letter, an open declaration

open

information that has become public; "all the reports were out in the open"; "the facts had been brought to the surface"

open

relatively empty of and unobstructed by fences or hedges or headlands or shoals; "in open country"; "the open countryside"; "open waters"; "on the open seas"

open

cause to open or to become open; "Mary opened the car door"

open

not requiring union membership; "an open shop employs nonunion workers"

open

also, to inclosed structures or objects; as, open houses, boxes, baskets, bottles, etc

open

An open wound is one from which a liquid such as blood is coming

open

Some colleges do not select students to attend, rather offer admission to all students who apply These colleges usually have extensive programs designed to provide remedial or developmental help to students who enroll with an insufficient academic record

open

Not of a quality to prevent communication, as by closing water ways, blocking roads, etc

open

If you open your arms, you stretch them wide apart in front of you, usually in order to put them round someone. She opened her arms and gave me a big hug

open

If you open something such as a door, window, or lid, or if it opens, its position is changed so that it no longer covers a hole or gap. He opened the window and looked out The church doors would open and the crowd would surge out. close, shut Open is also an adjective. an open window A door had been forced open

open

If something such as an offer or job is open, it is available for someone to accept or apply for. The offer will remain open until further notice. see also opening 6

open

have an opening or passage or outlet; "The bedrooms open into the hall"

open

To make or set open; to render free of access; to unclose; to unbar; to unlock; to remove any fastening or covering from; as, to open a door; to open a box; to open a room; to open a letter

open

If you describe a person or their character as open, you mean they are honest and do not want or try to hide anything or to deceive anyone. He had always been open with her and she always felt she would know if he lied She has an open, trusting nature. + openness open·ness a relationship based on honesty and openness

open

To become open

open

If you open a computer file, you give the computer an instruction to display it on the screen. Double click on the icon to open the file

open

To make known; to discover; also, to render available or accessible for settlements, trade, etc

open

Without reserve or false pretense; sincere; characterized by sincerity; unfeigned; frank; also, generous; liberal; bounteous; applied to personal appearance, or character, and to the expression of thought and feeling, etc

open

When you open your eyes or your eyes open, you move your eyelids upwards, for example when you wake up, so that you can see. When I opened my eyes I saw a man with an axe standing at the end of my bed His eyes were opening wide. Open is also an adjective. As soon as he saw that her eyes were open he sat up

open

of a set; containing points whose neighborhood consists of other points of the same set, or being the complement of an open set; of an interval; containing neither of its end points open to or in view of all; "an open protest"; "an open letter to the editor"

open

Button in Netscape Tool Button Bar at top Window with blank box appears Key any URL and press the Enter key to retrieve a document (You may also "open" or retrieve a document by clearing the Netscape LOCATION FIELD box above the document, entering a URL, and pressing the Enter key ) For more information see "Netscape Basics "

open

openly straightforward and direct without reserve or secretiveness; "his candid eyes"; "an open and trusting nature"; "a heart-to-heart talk"

open

start to operate or function or cause to start operating or functioning; "open a business"

open

without undue constriction as from e g tenseness or inhibition; "the clarity and resonance of an open tone"; "her natural and open response"

open

The price at which the commodity or security starts a trading day

open

To make something accessible or removing an obstacle to something being accessible

open

If an opportunity or choice is open to you, you are able to do a particular thing if you choose to. There are a wide range of career opportunities open to young people

open

If an event such as a meeting or discussion opens with a particular activity or if a particular activity opens an event, that activity is the first thing that happens or is dealt with. You can also say that someone such as a speaker or singer opens by doing a particular thing. The service opened with a hymn I opened by saying, `Honey, you look sensational.' Pollard opened the conversation with some small talk. = begin end

open

A frame that doesn¹t have a strike or spare (blow, error, miss)

open

become available; "an opportunity opened up"

open

affording free passage or access; "open drains"; "the road is open to traffic"; "open ranks"

open

a tournament in which both professionals and amateurs may play

open

To unclose; to form a hole, breach, or gap; to be unclosed; to be parted

open

open to or in view of all; "an open protest"; "an open letter to the editor"

open

where the air is unconfined; "he wanted to get outdoors a little"; "the concert was held in the open air"; "camping in the open"

open

make the opening move; "Kasparov opened with a standard opening"

open

possibly accepting or permitting; "a passage capable of misinterpretation"; "open to interpretation"; "an issue open to question"; "the time is fixed by the director and players and therefore subject to much variation"

open

not having been filled; "the job is still open"

open

Refers to the start of a trading day or the initial trade of a particular security at the start of a trading day "XYZ traded 100,000 shares at the open" means 100,000 shares of XYZ shares transacted in the first trade of that day

open

If you are open to suggestions or ideas, you are ready and willing to consider or accept them. They are open to suggestions on how working conditions might be improved. = receptive

open

If you open something such as a bottle, box, parcel, or envelope, you move, remove, or cut part of it so you can take out what is inside. The Inspector opened the packet of cigarettes The capsules are fiddly to open. Open is also an adjective. an open bottle of milk I tore the letter open. Open up means the same as open. He opened up a cage and lifted out a 6ft python

open

The price at which a security opens the trading day Generally, the opening price reflects the previous day's close -- unless extraordinary news or demand to buy or sell have occurred before the market opens

open

Not settled or adjusted; not decided or determined; not closed or withdrawn from consideration; as, an open account; an open question; to keep an offer or opportunity open

open

Open or unobstructed space; clear land, without trees or obstructions; open ocean; open water

open

Uttered with a relatively wide opening of the articulating organs; said of vowels; as, the än fär is open as compared with the ā in sāy

open

Uttered, as a consonant, with the oral passage simply narrowed without closure, as in uttering s

open

The price at which a security opened for trading on a given day

open

without any attempt at concealment; completely obvious; "open disregard of the law"; "open family strife"; "open hostility"; "a blatant appeal to vanity"; "a blazing indiscretion"

open

Candid, ingenuous, not subtle in character

open

used of mouth or eyes; "keep your eyes open"; "his mouth slightly opened"

open

Receptive

open

Free or cleared of obstruction to progress or to view; accessible; as, an open tract; the open sea

open

Free to be used, enjoyed, visited, or the like; not private; public; unrestricted in use; as, an open library, museum, court, or other assembly; liable to the approach, trespass, or attack of any one; unprotected; exposed

open

If people open something such as a blocked road or a border, or if it opens, people can then pass along it or through it. The rebels have opened the road from Monrovia to the Ivory Coast The solid rank of police officers lining the courtroom opened to let them pass. close Open is also an adjective. We were part of an entire regiment that had nothing else to do but to keep that highway open. Open up means the same as open. As rescue workers opened up roads today, it became apparent that some small towns were totally devastated When the Berlin Wall came down it wasn't just the roads that opened up but the waterways too

open

If you do something in the open, you do it out of doors rather than in a house or other building. Many are sleeping in the open because they have no shelter

open

If you open your shirt or coat, you undo the buttons or pull down the zip. I opened my coat and let him see the belt. Open is also an adjective. The top can be worn buttoned up or open over a T-shirt

open

To enter upon; to begin; as, to open a discussion; to open fire upon an enemy; to open trade, or correspondence; to open a case in court, or a meeting

open

When a film, play, or other public event opens, it begins to be shown, be performed, or take place for a limited period of time. A photographic exhibition opens at the Royal College of Art on Wednesday + opening open·ing He is due to attend the opening of the Asian Games on Saturday

open

display the contents of a file or start an application as on a computer begin or set in action, of meetings, speeches, recitals, etc

open

tenseness or inhibition; "the clarity and resonance of an open tone"; "her natural and open response" affording unobstructed entrance and exit; not shut or closed; "an open door"; "they left the door open" affording free passage or access; "open drains"; "the road is open to traffic"; "open ranks" used of mouth or eyes; "keep your eyes open"; "his mouth slightly opened" having no protecting cover or enclosure; "an open boat"; "an open fire"; "open sports cars" of a set; containing points whose neighborhood consists of other points of the same set, or being the complement of an open set; of an interval; containing neither of its end points open to or in view of all; "an open protest"; "an open letter to the editor" accessible to all; "open season"; "an open economy" not sealed or having been unsealed; "the letter was already open"; "the opened package lay on the table" not secret; "open plans"; "an open ballot" not brought to a conclusion; subject to further thought; "an open question"; "our position on this bill is still undecided"; "our lawsuit is still undetermined

open

If something is wide open, it is open to its full extent. The child had left the inner door wide open

open

"He opened the meeting with a long speech"

open

A break in the continuity of a circuit

open

v ("to open the Circle") To dissolve, erase, or unwrap the boundary of the Circle which was created at the beginning of a ritual, ending the ritual and removing the designation of sacred space from the location

open

spread out or open from a closed or folded state; "open the map"; "spread your arms"

open

a clear or unobstructed space or expanse of land or water; "finally broke out of the forest into the open"

open

not defended or capable of being defended; "an open city"; "open to attack"

open

Used in the context of general equities Having either buy or sell interest at the indicated price level and side of a preceding trade "Open on the buy/sell side" means looking for buyers/sellers (for someone who is a seller/buyer) Antithesis of clean

open

opened out; "an open newspaper"

open

To begin a sides innings as one of the first two batsmen

open

information that has become public; "all the reports were out in the open"; "the facts had been brought to the surface" a tournament in which both professionals and amateurs may play a clear or unobstructed space or expanse of land or water; "finally broke out of the forest into the open" make available; "This opens up new possibilities" become available; "an opportunity opened up" make the opening move; "Kasparov opened with a standard opening" cause to open or to become open; "Mary opened the car door" become open; "The door opened" display the contents of a file or start an application as on a computer begin or set in action, of meetings, speeches, recitals, etc

open

Not concealed or secret; not hidden or disguised; exposed to view or to knowledge; revealed; apparent; as, open schemes or plans; open shame or guilt

open

If you describe a situation, attitude, or way of behaving as open, you mean it is not kept hidden or secret. The action is an open violation of the Vienna Convention Hearing the case in open court is only one part of the judicial process. + openness open·ness the new climate of political openness

open

To reveal ones hand

open

accessible to all; "open season"; "an open economy"

open

lax in enforcing laws; "an open town"

open

The position of children's mouths when they eat in front of company

open

a tournament in which both professionals and amateurs may play a clear or unobstructed space or expanse of land or water; "finally broke out of the forest into the open"

open

To open opportunities or possibilities means the same as to open them up. The chief of naval operations wants to open opportunities for women in the Navy A series of fortunate opportunities opened to him

open

When a shop, office, or public building opens or is opened, its doors are unlocked and the public can go in. Banks closed on Friday afternoon and did not open again until Monday morning. a gang of three who'd apparently been lying in wait for him to open the shop. opening and closing times. Open is also an adjective. His shop is open Monday through Friday, 9am to 6pm

open

To launch the item in its original or a compatible application for review If the application is not available, the system will ask you to save it in the application of your choice

open

If you say that a competition, race, or election is wide open, you mean that anyone could win it, because there is no competitor who seems to be much better than the others. The competition has been thrown wide open by the absence of the world champion

open

To display the contents of a file in an application or to start an application

open

1 To start a program like Paint 2 To make visible a window like the Control Panel 3 To display a document in an appropriate program

open

Access is available For example, an "open network architecture" is one that enables other systems to interconnect

open

If you say that a system, person, or idea is open to something such as abuse or criticism, you mean they might receive abuse or criticism because of their qualities, effects, or actions. The system, though well-meaning, is open to abuse = susceptible

open

The price at which a security opens the trading day

open

To bark on scent or view of the game

open

To expand; to spread out; to be disclosed; as, the harbor opened to our view

open

1 Start up an application and/or make a document visible on the screen - that is, load its contents into memory from a disk Compare import and save 2 Expand a folder or disk into a window by double-clicking on its icon Also see Drag-and-Drop

open

On the stock exchange, the price at which currencies, shares, or commodities open is their value at the start of that day's trading. Gold declined $2 in Zurich to open at 385.50 In Paris and Milan, the dollar opened almost unchanged. close

open

To open, or open betting, is simply to make the first bet in a round When everyone checked to me, I figured it was okay to open with middle pair

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If an attitude or situation is in the open or out in the open, people know about it and it is no longer kept secret. The medical service had advised us to keep it a secret, but we wanted it in the open

open

display the contents of a file or start an application as on a computer

open

To begin; to commence; as, the stock opened at par; the battery opened upon the enemy

open

become open; "The door opened"

open

In a circuit breaker or other switching device, the state when the switch contacts are apart, the switch is "off," and current cannot flow The opposite of closed

open

If you open something such as a book, an umbrella, or your hand, or if it opens, the different parts of it move away from each other so that the inside of it can be seen. He opened the heavy Bible The officer's mouth opened, showing white, even teeth. Open is also an adjective. Without warning, Bardo smacked his fist into his open hand His mouth was a little open, as if he'd started to scream. Open out means the same as open. Keith took a map from the dashboard and opened it out on his knees. oval tables which open out to become circular

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To disclose; to reveal; to interpret; to explain

open

receptive to new ideas; "an open mind"; "open to new ideas"

open

begin or set in action, of meetings, speeches, recitals, etc ; "He opened the meeting with a long speech"

open

To loosen or make less compact; as, to open matted cotton by separating the fibers

open

"He opened the meeting with a long speech" start to operate or function or cause to start operating or functioning; "open a business" have an opening or passage or outlet; "The bedrooms open into the hall" ready for business; "the stores are open" not having been filled; "the job is still open" receptive to new ideas; "an open mind"; "open to new ideas" opened out; "an open newspaper" relatively empty of and unobstructed by fences or hedges or headlands or shoals; "in open country"; "the open countryside"; "open waters"; "on the open seas" sincere and free of reserve in expression; "Please be open with me" lax in enforcing laws; "an open town" without undue constriction as from e

open

To double-click an icon, or to select an icon then choose “Open” from a menu in order to display a window that contains the information that the icon represents

open

not brought to a conclusion; subject to further thought; "an open question"; "our position on this bill is still undecided"; "our lawsuit is still undetermined